Reference for Bava Kamma 60:18
לזעירי ודאי תנאי היא לרב מי לימא תנאי היא
for after the explanation given by R. Nahman what objection indeed could there be raised from the case of dung?<span class="x" onmousemove="('comment',' Where no increase will ever accrue. ');"><sup>14</sup></span>
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